Post by EKENYERENGOZI on May 21, 2005 6:12:12 GMT -5
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THE TROUBLE WITH AFRICA
A Political Dialogue Between Cameo Joey a European intellectual and Orikinla Osinachi an African Writer in May 2005.
This discussion has been published on line on the Current Affairs Board in the open forum of www.ukraine.com
……………………………………………………………………………<br> Hi,
The trouble with Africa is such a long list that I cannot start to explain it but I will speaks some of what is happening.
Last year in Moscow, Russia, 40 or so students were executed by a fire set in a dormitory that was set ablaze and locked as to not let the African students escape. The action was a murder of innocent students who were considered the cream of the crop from Africa. Maybe they were the one's with money rather than the cream? The dormitory was nothing special and some Russians did not like the cream of the crop. It seems the conditions were not too good anyway but the fire was arson and it was murder.
Africans are warned not to be found on the subways after dark, as they will be stabbed, robbed, etc. What is the trouble caused by?
What are the problems with Africa? Too many to list.
Africa has not contributed much to humanity as history and text will show. Not many if any inventions. Little or no donations to other countries of the world. Millions of deaths caused by aids, which costs the civilized world billions. Africa does not provide or contribute to the world in hardly any area.
We read about Africa and it's problems. We read about Africa and the lack of progress. We read about how Africa needs your money. Africa needs money but nothing is ever achieved by giving Africa money.
The French have run many parts of Africa for years.
The Belgians have run Africa too. You can name many countries that have run Africa and you can see Europeans ran the slave trade with permission of the Africans. What other countries do you see selling their people with no regard in history as Africa has done?
What does the future hold for Africa? Lots more of the same as history shows us is what Africa has to look for. List me the nations in Africa who have good or even almost good economies, health standards, clean prisons or hospitals, etc. Okay just see if you can start a list and if you can, are those places created by Africans and is the money coming from Africa?
Africa has failed for hundreds of years and I dare say nothing will change because as long as corruption and (NO UNITY) for any and every cause exists then the same things will take place.
Maybe Osi can blame America for the failures of Africans but anyone with half a brain will understand Africa is a failure because of Africans.
Camster
Cameo Joey
You are wrong to say Africa has not contributed to the advancement of human civilization when Africa is infect the cradle of human civilization. The Nubians ruled ancient Egypt for centuries and developed the foundation of Mathematics and Sciences. In fact, researches have confirmed that we taught the ancient Greek scholars.
Lest, I bore you with the typical Osinachi's fables, simply log on www.emeagwali.com, the web site of the intelligentsia of the African Genius.
Dr. Philip Emeagwali is the super genius of the Internet and Dr. Oyibo has solved the Unified Law of Relativity discovered by Albert Einstein. Dr. Oyibo is being nominated for the Nobel Prize.
Both geniuses are from Nigeria. And Prof. Bart Nnaji who is one of the top seven masters of Robotics in the world is also a Nigerian.
There is also Dr. Bankole Olowofoyeku who is a computer genius about to launch a new revolutionary operating system.
We have our own totally made in Nigeria Computer called ZINOX.
THE LIST WILL BE TOO LONG.
JUST LOG ON www.emeagwali.com and read about all our achievements and contributions to the advancement of modern civilization.
I don't want to mention Literature where we have won over four NOBEL PRIZES since 1986 when my elder compatriot Prof. Wole Soyinka won it first and my contemporary writer Ben Okri who has won the BOOKER PRIZE in the UK will win another NOBEL PRIZE in literature in the future. No matter what Petro, SRD and clique think, if God keeps me alive for four more decades, I will most likely win the NOBEL PRIZE in Literature. I have eight novels, ten volumes of plays and four anthologies and TOLSTOI has inspired me since my first book was published in 1987. And the book "Children of Heaven" has become a classic.
We have great inventions you are ignorant of.
I your on line discussant has been developing the theory of the Network of Entropy.
But, people say it is metaphysical. And since they knew my father was a metaphysician, they are looking at me as another eccentric of the same order. And lest, I would be called a Wizard of occultism, I went for deliverance from the spirit of divination in 1998. And stopped all my experiments.
The first Heart Transplant was performed by an African- America.
May I publish your post on our web sites in Nigeria?
I want others to reply you.
Not Much
Hi,
The cradle of civilization is no more and to deal with the dynamics of how humans evolved would be interesting if we had all the answers.
You listed four or Nobel Laureates but if you check the records that would make about one percent of the awards given. In regards to INVENTIONS you will find that out of 270 major one's the Americans have about 60% or 70% with the English and other Europeans rounding out the rest.
There are a few things you could mention but not many friends and that are just the simple truth.
As far as genius people go it's not hard to find them all over the world. The difference is the genius is not what makes the contribution but rather the WORK.
So the Dutch civilized Africa along with the English, French, Belgians and a host of others right? After the civilization took place then what have the Africans done with it? Can you show me a good economy? I can show Nigeria as a great oil producer who pays its workers no money other than less than minimum wage and few people take the rest. With all the dollars involved in that country it remains poverty stricken and a terrible mess.
As usual Africa begs for money while they have money. African governments squander anything and everything they have or are given and in the name of hope and a future they turn to me and ask for my donations for hungry children. At the same time they have more oil than TEXAS and more poverty than the poorest countries of South America. Can you explain the logical and stupidity involved here? I can explain it and the problem always falls to culture, greed, brutality, stupidity, and Ignorance.
Camster
You are right and it breaks my heart.
Dear Cameo Joey,
You are right and the bitter truth breaks my heart.
Your last post says it all.
I am already drawing the attention of the most circulated Nigerian newspaper THE GUARDIAN on www.ngrguardiannews.com to your posts and I am going to draw the attention of your last post to the leaders of Nigeria and the multinational oil companies to it.
Cameo Joey, I referred you to our web site www.akumafiete.org and I spoke with the leader Alhaji Asari Dokubo only yesterday, on the corruption and exploitation in Nigeria and how the Western Powers have been fishing in the troubled waters of Nigeria.
We once had a visionary leader that could have made a great difference, but an assassin killed him, because as I told you earlier, the oligarchy told their Western Masters that he was going communist. After the assassination, they expelled the Marxist lecturers at the Ahmadu Bello University (ABU), Zaria. But, their students continued underground. And they trained me. But, they soon gave up the struggle and joined the middle class.
I have not given up and the days of reckoning are coming.
You speak as if you have been to our villages in the creeks of the Niger Delta.
You speak the bitter truth.
THE TROUBLE WITH AFRICA
A Political Dialogue Between Cameo Joey a European intellectual and Orikinla Osinachi an African Writer in May 2005.
This discussion has been published on line on the Current Affairs Board in the open forum of www.ukraine.com
……………………………………………………………………………<br> Hi,
The trouble with Africa is such a long list that I cannot start to explain it but I will speaks some of what is happening.
Last year in Moscow, Russia, 40 or so students were executed by a fire set in a dormitory that was set ablaze and locked as to not let the African students escape. The action was a murder of innocent students who were considered the cream of the crop from Africa. Maybe they were the one's with money rather than the cream? The dormitory was nothing special and some Russians did not like the cream of the crop. It seems the conditions were not too good anyway but the fire was arson and it was murder.
Africans are warned not to be found on the subways after dark, as they will be stabbed, robbed, etc. What is the trouble caused by?
What are the problems with Africa? Too many to list.
Africa has not contributed much to humanity as history and text will show. Not many if any inventions. Little or no donations to other countries of the world. Millions of deaths caused by aids, which costs the civilized world billions. Africa does not provide or contribute to the world in hardly any area.
We read about Africa and it's problems. We read about Africa and the lack of progress. We read about how Africa needs your money. Africa needs money but nothing is ever achieved by giving Africa money.
The French have run many parts of Africa for years.
The Belgians have run Africa too. You can name many countries that have run Africa and you can see Europeans ran the slave trade with permission of the Africans. What other countries do you see selling their people with no regard in history as Africa has done?
What does the future hold for Africa? Lots more of the same as history shows us is what Africa has to look for. List me the nations in Africa who have good or even almost good economies, health standards, clean prisons or hospitals, etc. Okay just see if you can start a list and if you can, are those places created by Africans and is the money coming from Africa?
Africa has failed for hundreds of years and I dare say nothing will change because as long as corruption and (NO UNITY) for any and every cause exists then the same things will take place.
Maybe Osi can blame America for the failures of Africans but anyone with half a brain will understand Africa is a failure because of Africans.
Camster
Cameo Joey
You are wrong to say Africa has not contributed to the advancement of human civilization when Africa is infect the cradle of human civilization. The Nubians ruled ancient Egypt for centuries and developed the foundation of Mathematics and Sciences. In fact, researches have confirmed that we taught the ancient Greek scholars.
Lest, I bore you with the typical Osinachi's fables, simply log on www.emeagwali.com, the web site of the intelligentsia of the African Genius.
Dr. Philip Emeagwali is the super genius of the Internet and Dr. Oyibo has solved the Unified Law of Relativity discovered by Albert Einstein. Dr. Oyibo is being nominated for the Nobel Prize.
Both geniuses are from Nigeria. And Prof. Bart Nnaji who is one of the top seven masters of Robotics in the world is also a Nigerian.
There is also Dr. Bankole Olowofoyeku who is a computer genius about to launch a new revolutionary operating system.
We have our own totally made in Nigeria Computer called ZINOX.
THE LIST WILL BE TOO LONG.
JUST LOG ON www.emeagwali.com and read about all our achievements and contributions to the advancement of modern civilization.
I don't want to mention Literature where we have won over four NOBEL PRIZES since 1986 when my elder compatriot Prof. Wole Soyinka won it first and my contemporary writer Ben Okri who has won the BOOKER PRIZE in the UK will win another NOBEL PRIZE in literature in the future. No matter what Petro, SRD and clique think, if God keeps me alive for four more decades, I will most likely win the NOBEL PRIZE in Literature. I have eight novels, ten volumes of plays and four anthologies and TOLSTOI has inspired me since my first book was published in 1987. And the book "Children of Heaven" has become a classic.
We have great inventions you are ignorant of.
I your on line discussant has been developing the theory of the Network of Entropy.
But, people say it is metaphysical. And since they knew my father was a metaphysician, they are looking at me as another eccentric of the same order. And lest, I would be called a Wizard of occultism, I went for deliverance from the spirit of divination in 1998. And stopped all my experiments.
The first Heart Transplant was performed by an African- America.
May I publish your post on our web sites in Nigeria?
I want others to reply you.
Not Much
Hi,
The cradle of civilization is no more and to deal with the dynamics of how humans evolved would be interesting if we had all the answers.
You listed four or Nobel Laureates but if you check the records that would make about one percent of the awards given. In regards to INVENTIONS you will find that out of 270 major one's the Americans have about 60% or 70% with the English and other Europeans rounding out the rest.
There are a few things you could mention but not many friends and that are just the simple truth.
As far as genius people go it's not hard to find them all over the world. The difference is the genius is not what makes the contribution but rather the WORK.
So the Dutch civilized Africa along with the English, French, Belgians and a host of others right? After the civilization took place then what have the Africans done with it? Can you show me a good economy? I can show Nigeria as a great oil producer who pays its workers no money other than less than minimum wage and few people take the rest. With all the dollars involved in that country it remains poverty stricken and a terrible mess.
As usual Africa begs for money while they have money. African governments squander anything and everything they have or are given and in the name of hope and a future they turn to me and ask for my donations for hungry children. At the same time they have more oil than TEXAS and more poverty than the poorest countries of South America. Can you explain the logical and stupidity involved here? I can explain it and the problem always falls to culture, greed, brutality, stupidity, and Ignorance.
Camster
You are right and it breaks my heart.
Dear Cameo Joey,
You are right and the bitter truth breaks my heart.
Your last post says it all.
I am already drawing the attention of the most circulated Nigerian newspaper THE GUARDIAN on www.ngrguardiannews.com to your posts and I am going to draw the attention of your last post to the leaders of Nigeria and the multinational oil companies to it.
Cameo Joey, I referred you to our web site www.akumafiete.org and I spoke with the leader Alhaji Asari Dokubo only yesterday, on the corruption and exploitation in Nigeria and how the Western Powers have been fishing in the troubled waters of Nigeria.
We once had a visionary leader that could have made a great difference, but an assassin killed him, because as I told you earlier, the oligarchy told their Western Masters that he was going communist. After the assassination, they expelled the Marxist lecturers at the Ahmadu Bello University (ABU), Zaria. But, their students continued underground. And they trained me. But, they soon gave up the struggle and joined the middle class.
I have not given up and the days of reckoning are coming.
You speak as if you have been to our villages in the creeks of the Niger Delta.
You speak the bitter truth.